Support the French aircraft development in World War 2 Online.

Par cid250 le 22/1/2003 à 22:19:08 (#3079908)

I'm from Spain, i don't know if i can write in spanish for more readable for french only speakers... but if any of you can translate this to french will be interesting.

I want more french planes modeled for a correct Battle of France. There are a lot of interesting planes that i we need, but i'm interested specially in the french dive bomber Loire-Nieuport 411.

I need your help to support this cool plane!. May be is slow, but is a dive bomber and have a 500Kg bomb load, and excellent 20mm guns... Perfect for Close Air Support to Ground.

Please get info in this link, and support it!. ;)

Loire-Nieuport 411

May be with your active colaboration, we can see this plane flying the skies of world war 2 online.

Thanks, and salutes from Spain ;)

Par Pachy le 22/1/2003 à 22:36:44 (#3080042)

"Muchas gracias" for your input and support Cid250.

The Loire-Nieuport 401 is an interesting plane, but I would prefer the Breguet 691/693/695 for the following reasons:

* Faster and generally more protected
* Better suited to the CAS role with its eight 50kg bombs
* More historical as the LN was originally only meant to attack ships, not ground troops
* Saw service in much greater numbers (220+ built, about 70 in service on May 10th: 1/5th of Stuka numbers)
* Much better documented, in fact we have already 95% of the needed documentation, entirely from the French military archives

To know more about the Breguet light bomber series, read the following thread.

http://www5.playnet.com/bv/wwiiolhq/dg_message.jsp?group_id=8863&parent_id=1065581&page=1

And if you agree with me that this plane is sorely needed, please bump the thread!

Par cdar le 23/1/2003 à 0:38:12 (#3080672)

Bump

!S to u Cid, some of us work since a long time to have more (réalistic) plane.
Be sure we are interested ..

Par cid250 le 23/1/2003 à 2:51:17 (#3081148)

I know about the breguet... and is the better CAS plane.

I want to support Breguet too, because it was in greater numbers too.

But i want some research for the most unknown plane... the french dive bomber.

May be in order of "most wish" the french planes are:

Breguet 691/693/695
Morane 406
Loire-Nieuport 411

But will be cool to have a dive bomber, even if is slow. In air superiority, the speed isn't a problem... the role of this plane is dive bombing... and is well armed with 500Kg of bombs and a 20mm gun... so it can work as tank killer better than Breguet.

I hope to see this in WW2OL or IL2-Sturmovuk.

May be the most hard thing is get a correct picture of the cockpit. There are any french museum with a Loire-Nieuport 411?. May be some one need to get the pics... and lend it to the IL2 modelers.

Thanks for your valuable help. ;)

I'm axis dedicated player, but i'm happy when i see the correct historic weapons in a simulation of the Battle of France.

In ground, i want to see the H39, and the T.13 Belgium tank killer... this is needed and can be added to all spawn list over Belgium cities... Please, push for both too. ;)
I'm tired of the same USA-British-German weaponset in all games of second world war.

Par louloup le 23/1/2003 à 8:22:43 (#3081582)

S! Cid

If u want a french dive bomber , the vouvht vindicator V-156F(french version) has existed. the 10.05.40, There was 40 in first line.

Par louloup le 23/1/2003 à 8:22:48 (#3081583)

S! Cid

If u want a french dive bomber , the vouvht vindicator V-156F(french version) has existed. the 10.05.40, There was 40 in first line.

Par louloup le 23/1/2003 à 8:22:53 (#3081584)

S! Cid

If u want a french dive bomber , the vouvht vindicator V-156F(french version) has existed. the 10.05.40, There was 40 in first line.

Par Leclerc le 23/1/2003 à 10:39:59 (#3082187)

Louloup! Parkison te guette!!!! :D

Par lh2Or@n le 23/1/2003 à 11:05:59 (#3082389)

Chance Vought, Breguet 693 ou LN401, si au moins on pouvait avoir l'un de ceux là !!
Même les Glen Martin étaient plus nombreux que les DB7 !!
Et pourquoi pas le LEO 45 à la place du DB7 !:o

Par Pachy le 23/1/2003 à 11:15:28 (#3082485)

Le DB-7 est un très bon avion dans l'absolu, mais c'est un bombardier en vol horizontal, donc pas très utile dans l'état actuel du jeu. Il est plus rapide et mieux armé que le Blen, mais sans doute au prix d'une maniabilité inférieure surtout à basse altitude (d'ailleurs le Blen faisant de l'acrobatie avec ses bombes, j'y crois moyen, mais bon).

Par lh2Or@n le 23/1/2003 à 11:36:07 (#3082645)

Le Vought est un appareil américain, si leur principal problème c'est mettre la main sur de la documentation technique, et bien pour cet appareil, ils doivent pouvoir la récupérer facilement et en anglais en plus !!
(bien que personnellement je préférerais voir apparaître le Breguet 693 comme avions d'attaque au sol et le LEO45 ou l'AMIOT354 comme bombardier moyen) !